Dancing Through Life's Rhythms: A Journey from Childhood Dreams to Becoming the Founder of lemon plus tAiwan

個人簡介 Profile

姓名 Name	洪婉寧 Ningning Hung
職業 Occupation	舞蹈老師/LEMON PLUS 舞蹈總監 Dance teacher/LEMON PLUS dance director
資歷 Years of Learning Dance	24年 24 years

從哪時候開始學舞蹈的？

「從五歲開始學跳舞」

When did you start learning dance?

"Learning to dance since I was five years old"

為什麼對舞蹈有興趣？

「一開始是看姊姊去學跳舞的，姊姊跟我差五歲，所以看姊姊跳舞，我也想跳舞，沒有什麼很特別的動機啦，就跟著姊姊一起」

Why are you interested in dance?

"I first learned to dance while watching my sister. She is five years younger than me, so when I saw her dancing, I wanted to dance too. I didn't have any special motivation, so I just followed my sister."

在學舞的過程中，遇到了什麼困難？

「小時候肯定是那種拉筋會痛啊，舞蹈比賽練的很辛苦，以前小時候每年都會有全國的個人舞蹈比賽，然後到了長大我覺得學舞的困難倒不是身體上面的很痛或挫敗，反而是去到國外會有一些文化的差異，例如說在排練上或者是在給東西上，就會明顯的感受到亞洲人和外國人的一些想法上面或者是工作上面會有比較多的磨合，就是比較難啦」

What difficulties did you encounter while learning to dance?

"When I was a kid, I would definitely feel pain when I stretched my muscles. I practiced very hard for dance competitions. There used to be national individual dance competitions every year when I was a kid. Then as I grew up, I felt that the difficulty in learning to dance was not the physical pain or frustration. On the contrary, when you go abroad, there will be some cultural differences. For example, when rehearsing or giving things, you will obviously feel that there will be more integration between Asians and foreigners in their ideas or work. It’s just more difficult.”

舞蹈歷程是什麼？怎麼會想要到國外繼續進修？

「從五歲就開始學跳舞到了高中上了台北唸國立臺北藝術大學的青年一貫制，所以它是從高中一直唸到大學是七年的一個學制，然後在這個過程中，就是有跟我的導師聊，然後在大二的時候也交換生去了紐約，可能是那個時候吧，因為有交換生的經歷，讓我去國外認識了一些國外的舞者，看了他們跳舞的方式，還有發現他們外國人對於學舞的熱情，他們是由內而外的，就是我真的喜歡跳舞，我就來上課，但我覺得亞洲，就是台灣的小孩就會比較被動一點，所以我就是被他們的熱情所感染，我就說哦那我想要去國外繼續跳舞，然後跟這樣的人一起學習。」

What is the dance process? Why would you want to continue your studies abroad?

"I started learning to dance when I was five years old. I went to high school in Taipei and studied in the National Taipei University of the Arts' youth consistent system. So it is a seven-year academic system from high school to university. And in the process, there are people like me. I chatted with my mentor, and then I went to New York as an exchange student during my sophomore year. Maybe it was at that time, because of my experience as an exchange student, I went abroad to get to know some foreign dancers and saw the way they dance, and I discovered that foreigners are enthusiastic about learning dance from the inside out. I really like dancing, so I come to take classes, but I think children in Asia, that is, Taiwan, are more passive, so I am attracted by them. Infected by his enthusiasm, I said, “Well, I want to go abroad to continue dancing, and then learn with such people.”

為什麼會到上海去工作？

這也是一個機緣，就是我從在國外的時候就會跟一些編舞家工作或者是認識不同的演員跟舞者，所以我就是在工作的....應該是說我接了很多不同的工作和製作，認識了這些人，然後其中認識的一個導演，又把我帶去上海。」

Why do you go to Shanghai to work?

This is also an opportunity. When I was abroad, I would work with some choreographers or get to know different actors and dancers, so I was working... It should be said that I took on many different jobs. and production, I got to know these people, and then a director I met among them took me to Shanghai. "

是什麼契機讓老師想要當舞蹈老師的？

「我其實蠻喜歡分享這件事情的，我本來是全職的職業舞者，然後在歐洲跳舞，也去了中東，因為遇到疫情，劇院都關閉了，我就暫時回來台灣。其實在學舞的過程中，都會有機會去教課或者是做一個工作坊分享課，但我沒有全職的當舞蹈老師，是直到了疫情，回到我的家鄉雲林，然後有了這個契機，就開了我的第一堂課。在這個開課跟學生分享的過程，慢慢的找到了和在舞台上當舞者很不一樣的感覺，在舞台上好像就是自己跟身體，然後自己跟舞台上面的一件事情，但是在教室就好像是變得我跟好多人一起，然後我覺得這個能量跟這個感覺很好，所以我就是慢慢的越來越喜歡教學，越來越喜歡和大家分享。」

What made you want to be a dance teacher?

"I actually like to share this. I was originally a full-time professional dancer, and then I danced in Europe and also went to the Middle East. Due to the pandemic, theaters were closed, so I came back to Taiwan temporarily. In fact, I was studying dance. During the process, I would have the opportunity to teach or do a workshop to share lessons, but I did not become a full-time dance teacher until the epidemic, and I returned to my hometown of Yunlin. Then with this opportunity, I opened my first class. In the process of sharing this class with students, I slowly found a very different feeling from being a dancer on the stage. On the stage, it seems that I am just myself and my body, and then I am with one thing on the stage. , but in the classroom, it seems that I am with many people, and then I feel that this energy and this feeling are very good, so I gradually like teaching more and more, and I like sharing with everyone more and more."

從小的夢想就是當舞蹈老師嗎？

「好像沒有誒，我小時候比較想要偏職業舞者，但是通常職業舞者會有年齡限制，就這蠻現實的，像譬如說芭蕾舞者，他們可能是在14歲就已經要進舞團了，然後到了20歲可能都已經是還蠻極限的年齡了，但我是現代舞者，我其實還好，我就是一路大學畢業到上研究所，然後進了舞團，就是一直都有在我想要當舞者的這個目標跟夢想，但我覺得在這過程中，一邊學習一邊當舞者，也可以試試別的東西，所以我好像沒有從小就說我一定要當舞蹈老師，就好像我是一直在舞蹈的這條路上，但是我並沒有限制我說我要當舞者或者當老師，又或者成為一個製作當編導或者是編舞者之類的。」

Has your dream since childhood been to be a dance teacher?

"I don't think so. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a professional dancer, but there are usually age limits for professional dancers. This is quite realistic. For example, ballet dancers may have to join a dance company at the age of 14. , and by the time I reach 20, it may be quite an extreme age, but I am a modern dancer, and I am okay. I just graduated from college, went to graduate school, and then joined a dance troupe, and it has always been with me. I have this goal and dream of becoming a dancer, but I feel that in the process, I can become a dancer while learning, and I can also try other things, so I don’t seem to have said since I was a child that I must be a dance teacher, just like I have always been on the path of dance, but I have not limited myself to saying that I want to be a dancer or a teacher, or become a production director or choreographer."

曾經後悔過做這個職業嗎？

「好像目前沒有誒，好像蠻確定的，從我國小二、三年級第一次舞蹈比賽，然後我就蠻喜歡在舞台上的感覺，我也很明確那個時候就知道我想要一直往舞蹈這條路走下去。」

Have you ever regretted doing this career?

"It doesn't seem to be happening at the moment, but it seems pretty certain. From the first dance competition in my second or third grade of primary school, I liked the feeling of being on the stage. I also knew clearly at that time that I wanted to pursue dance all the time. Go down the road."

你會給對舞蹈有熱情並想成為專業舞蹈家的學員們甚麼意見或建議？

「以我自己的經驗來說，我會想要建議就是抓住機會，然後不要害怕去嘗試任何東西，像我以前我可能會哦我是舞者，我就只做舞者的工作，但畢業之後，我就會發現好多工作都是互相相輔相成的，就例如說我在大學的時候我們會學習做製作做行政方面，那這種組織如何做一個舞蹈的製作，就是在從中學習，進到了職場好多都是會有相關的，所以我從舞者的身份跳成了編舞者，參與製作，就是我就變成不在舞台上的舞者了，就變成在幕後跟導演一起完成一個製作，導演負責導戲，我負責做舞蹈的編排，所以我覺得我就是抓住每一次機會，然後嘗試不同職位，但是我在做的可能都是同一個事情，就是我都在舞蹈的方向和領域裡，你永遠不知道未來會帶你去哪，如果當下有一個機會，即使我會覺得他是很挑戰或是很困難的，我還是會接下來，然後在過程中工作中，肯定可以跟前輩或者是老師們學習，那你有了這次的經驗，可能下次他就會帶你去更遠的地方」

What advice or advice would you give to students who are passionate about dance and want to become professional dancers?

"Speaking from my own experience, I would like to advise you to take the opportunity and not be afraid to try anything. Like before, I would probably oh I am a dancer, I would just do the job of a dancer, but after graduation, I will find that many jobs are complementary to each other. For example, when I was in college, we would learn about production and administration. How to do a dance production in this kind of organization is to learn from it and enter the workplace. Many of them are related, so I changed from a dancer to a choreographer and participated in the production. That means I became a dancer who was not on the stage, and I became a behind-the-scenes complete production with the director. The director is responsible for directing the play, and I am responsible for choreographing the dance, so I feel that I just seize every opportunity and try different positions, but what I am doing may be the same thing, that is, I am in the direction and field of dance. Here, you never know where the future will take you. If there is an opportunity now, even if I think it is challenging, I will still take it, and in the process of working, I will be able to learn from my predecessors. Or you can learn from the teachers. Then after you have this experience, maybe next time he will take you to a farther place."

訪談的核心精華

「你永遠不知道未來會帶你去哪，如果當下有一個機會，即使覺得他是很挑戰或是很困難的，還是要接下來，然後在過程中工作中，肯定可以跟前輩或者是老師們學習，那你有了這次的經驗，可能下次他就會帶你去更遠的地方！」

Key Takeaway from the Interview

“You never know where the future will take you. If there is an opportunity now, even if you think it is challenging, you still have to take the next step. Then in the process of working, you can learn from your seniors or teachers. , then after you have this experience, maybe he will take you to a farther place next time!”

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